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BYE-GONES FOR 1909-1910. NEW SERIES. VOL. XI. The Editor of this volume invites Notes, Queries and Replies upon the Antiquities, Parish.Registers, and other Ancient Records, Old Customs, Super¬ stitions, Folk-lore, Dialects, Place-names, Worthies, Bibliography, dec, of Wales and the Border Counties. Old Manuscripts, dec., entrusted to the Editor, will be carefully returned. JANUARY 6, 1909. NOTES. A WELSHMAN DEAWN, HANGED, AND QUARTERED.—" Fabian's Chronicle," pub¬ lished 1542, ends thus:—"The Firste daye of Julye was a Welshe-manne drawen, hanged and quartered for prophesying of the Kyng his Majesties death, whose highnes Jesu long preserve with his noble Ympe Prince EdwaH, and his noble counsaill, in honor, Walth, and prosperitee long to endure. Amen. The ende of Chronicle." What Welshman suf¬ fered thus? John H. Clarke. SHROPSHIRE DIALECT. — Hike.— I had not heard this for many years (in fact it had dropped out of memory) until a few days back, when I heard a shepherd herding sheep encouraging his dog by the word, " Hike-on, hike-on, round 'em." The expres¬ sion was common enough sixty or seventy years ago, but has fallen into disuse. The shepherd was " one of the old school," in the neighbourhood of Church Stretton. Has the word been recorded? T. Caswell. All Stretton. DR. PRING'S MUSIC TYPE.—" Dr. Pring, of Bangor, we understand, has just completed a system of printing music by type which is likely to prove of great public importance, as by this new method music may be sold at one-half the present exorbitant Vol. XL, New Series [Vol. 20th from the beginning.] price; besides embracing other material ad¬ vantages which will give it a decided pre¬ ference to the tedious process and extrava¬ gant expence now incurred by engraving. The doctor means to give it publicity as soon as letters patent are procured to secure his right and title to the invention." {Cambrian, Dec. 9, 1808). Arthur Mee. WILLIAM PENN A TUDOR.—Griffith Thomas, a correspondent of " The Druid " (a newspaper published at Scranton, Pennsyl¬ vania), of Nov. 26, 1908, makes the following in¬ teresting communication. Can any reader of Bye-Gones enlighten us further on the subject of. this interesting story? It will, of course, be borne in mind that the Tudors came from Penmynydd (here called Pen- munnith, after the English pronunciation) in Anglesey: — Wattson, in his aninals of Philadelphia, gives the foLowing account regarding William Penn's family:—"As a sequel to the foregoing genea¬ logical taiblle, I here annex some facts, derived from Hugh David, an early ©migrant, which go to show that William Penm said his house Was descended from the Royal Tudor raoe. The Rev. Hugh David came into this country with Wiilia'm Penn about, the year 1700, and lived in Gwymned, a place settled principally by emi¬ grants from Wales; he irolated an anecdote of the Penn family, perhaps known onily to few, as follows:—-They both being on board the same ship, often conversed together. William Penn, observing a goat -gnawing a broom, which was lying on the ship's deck, called out, ' Hugh, doth thou observe the goat? See what hardy fellows the Welsh are, how they can feed on a broom. However, Hugh, I am a Welshman myself, and will relate by how strange. a circumstance our familly lost their name. _ My grandfather was named John Tudor, and lived upon the top of a hill or mountain in Wales'; be was generally called John Penmunnith, which, in English, is John on the top of the hill. He removed from